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Rhetoric in the Age of Fluency · Sitting 3

The Argument That Holds

Logos is the reasoning that holds up when you pull on it. A model can sound like it holds. Can you tell when it does not?

  • 28 min
  • Talk About It
  • 11–14

Parent briefing · 5 minutes, before they sit

Logos is the appeal to reason. It has two parts: a claim and a reason. 'We should leave early because traffic is bad.' Claim: leave early. Reason: traffic is bad. Does the reason support the claim? Yes. Now: 'We should use this tool because it is the future.' Claim: use this tool. Reason: it is the future. Does the reason support the claim? Not really. 'The future' is not a reason. It is a feeling dressed as a reason. The skill is to pull on the reason and see if the claim holds. The model is very good at producing reasons that sound like reasons. The child needs to learn to pull on them.

Hard edges

  • Keep examples simple for this age. A claim and one reason. Not a five-paragraph essay.
  • Do not grade the child's opinions. Grade the reasoning.

If they say

“It sounded smart.”
Sounding smart is a sound, not a reason. Pull on the reason. If it holds, it is smart. If it wobbles, it just sounded smart.

Objective

The student can identify a simple claim and the reason given for it, and test whether the reason actually supports the claim or just sounds like it does.

Claim and reason

An argument has two parts: what you want me to believe, and why I should believe it. 'We should buy this because it is cheaper.' What you want me to believe: buy this. Why: it is cheaper. If it is actually cheaper, the reason holds. If it is not, the reason breaks. The model is very good at giving reasons that sound right. 'This approach is better because it is more efficient.' Is it? More efficient than what? By what measure? If you cannot answer those, the reason is a sound, not a support. Pull on it. If it holds, trust it. If it wobbles, do not.

The wobble test

When you hear a claim and a reason, pull on the reason. Ask: is this actually true? Does it actually support the claim? If the reason wobbles, the argument is weak even if it sounds strong. The model produces arguments that do not wobble in sound but wobble in fact. It says 'studies suggest' without naming the studies. It says 'experts agree' without naming the experts. Those are wobbles. The child who can hear the wobble will not be fooled by the sound. The child who cannot will trust the smoothest argument in the room, and the smoothest argument is now a machine.

Big idea

An argument is a claim and a reason. Pull on the reason. If it wobbles, the sound was not the support.

Try this~12 min total

Pull on it

12 min
  1. Ask the model to argue for something simple: 'Why should kids read books?'
  2. Write the claim and the first reason it gives.
  3. Pull on the reason: is it actually true? Does it actually support the claim?
  4. If it wobbles, write WOBBLE. If it holds, write HOLDS.
  5. Talk About It: did the argument sound stronger than it was?

Lesson guide

Ask after you try

After the model has given its argument.

  1. Ask the guide to argue for something and then ask: 'What is your strongest reason?' Pull on that reason. If it names a study, ask which one. If it says 'many experts,' ask which ones. The wobble is in the vagueness.
  2. Did they separate the claim from the reason?
  3. Did they pull on the reason?
  4. Did they identify the wobble, if there was one?

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What argument did we hear today that sounded strong but wobbled when we pulled on it?

Sits beside

  • Thinking. Claim and check is the same skill: pull on the support.
  • Science. A hypothesis is a claim. The test is the pull.

Integrity. Do not use the wobble test to destroy arguments you disagree with and skip it for arguments you like. Pull on all of them.

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